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	As a pedophile, I still consider myself part of the LGBT community, because I still like people of the same sex, just not the old people. I've come out towards lots of gays as a boy lover and I did attend <i>Pride Amsterdam</i>. Last Pride I put up stickers promoting child-adult relationships and on my way home I made out with a twink on the train. The year before, at <i>Pride at the Beach</i>, I was dancing with some really hot kids... They kinda noticed I was enjoying myself with those boys and they 'guided me away' by having Mister Leather Switzerland and Mister Leather Netherlands, dance with me at the same time. We should have an inclusive sexual minority movement. We should be welcoming everyone at every event. We should remind the LGBT community that we used to be part of the same team. I hope that in the future we as NPEHs get as much as a community as the LGBTs have. With art, literature, political involvement, social events, clubs, parties, porn. There is, in my opinion, just one way to go forward and that is to go out there and fight for our rights and our positions. Make the claim for it and do not take no for an answer. And if that doesn't work, we may need to convince them, one little lover at the time.<br>		As a pedophile, I still consider myself part of the LGBT community, because I still like people of the same sex, just not the old people. I've come out towards lots of gays as a boy lover and I did attend <i>Pride Amsterdam</i>. Last Pride I put up stickers promoting child-adult relationships and on my way home I made out with a twink on the train. The year before, at <i>Pride at the Beach</i>, I was dancing with some really hot kids... They kinda noticed I was enjoying myself with those boys and they 'guided me away' by having Mister Leather Switzerland and Mister Leather Netherlands, dance with me at the same time. We should have an inclusive sexual minority movement. We should be welcoming everyone at every event. We should remind the LGBT community that we used to be part of the same team. I hope that in the future we as NPEHs get as much as a community as the LGBTs have. With art, literature, political involvement, social events, clubs, parties, porn. There is, in my opinion, just one way to go forward and that is to go out there and fight for our rights and our positions. Make the claim for it and do not take no for an answer. And if that doesn't work, we may need to convince them, one little lover at the time.<br>
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			[At a later date Mark revealed his true name: Nelson Maatman]<br>
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	<i>source: Interview < Community Interviews 2: Kinderbevrijdingsfront or 'N' > by Marthijn Uittenbogaard; marthijn.nl/p/174; Marthijn.nl & Brongersma.info; 20 March 2019</i>		<i>source: Interview < Community Interviews 2: Kinderbevrijdingsfront or 'N' > by Marthijn Uittenbogaard; marthijn.nl/p/174; Marthijn.nl & Brongersma.info; 20 March 2019</i>

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	<b>We met a couple of times at my place, and I know you are struggling with coming out into the public or not? You once did a TV interview. In this interview you were made partly unrecognizable with make up. This way, no one in the streets would recognize you, but I'm sure your parents and so on would still be able to recognize you. Was this a shock for them, or did you tell them before?</b><br>		<b>We met a couple of times at my place, and I know you are struggling with coming out into the public or not? You once did a TV interview. In this interview you were made partly unrecognizable with make up. This way, no one in the streets would recognize you, but I'm sure your parents and so on would still be able to recognize you. Was this a shock for them, or did you tell them before?</b><br>
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	The day of recording took about twelve hours in total. Seven filming and over four hours in make-up. It was mid Summer and it was incredibly hot. Wearing long sleeves, boots and a latex mask didn't exactly make it bearable. I could literally and figuratively not keep myself cool. Most important thing I remember is a very long monologue from me about sexual relationships probably not being damaging, while the interviewer just kept shaking her head. They edited me to be exactly what they wanted: scared, ashamed and mentally ill. They forgot to show the reality, that I was angry at the world for not allowing me to be who I am and for having to be scared. It actually wasn't the only video interview I did. <i>~~EditieNL~~</i>, a Dutch tabloid TV news show also aired an interview with me. This time about chemical castration. It was filmed in a park near the studio. It came in a response to a mental health program elsewhere in Europe where non-offending pedo's let themselves be chemically castrated. I had planned to take my family out to diner, the night the episode was aired on TV and leaving them in the dark about it. However in the announcements of the episode the week before, my parents had already recognized me. So that saved me a few quid. They were very unhappy about it. They never told me that with so many words, but they really were. They still hope I quit doing activism.<br>		The day of recording took about twelve hours in total. Seven filming and over four hours in make-up. It was mid Summer and it was incredibly hot. Wearing long sleeves, boots and a latex mask didn't exactly make it bearable. I could literally and figuratively not keep myself cool. Most important thing I remember is a very long monologue from me about sexual relationships probably not being damaging, while the interviewer just kept shaking her head. They edited me to be exactly what they wanted: scared, ashamed and mentally ill. They forgot to show the reality, that I was angry at the world for not allowing me to be who I am and for having to be scared. It actually wasn't the only video interview I did. <i>Editie NL</i>, a Dutch tabloid TV news show also aired an interview with me. This time about chemical castration. It was filmed in a park near the studio. It came in a response to a mental health program elsewhere in Europe where non-offending pedo's let themselves be chemically castrated. I had planned to take my family out to diner, the night the episode was aired on TV and leaving them in the dark about it. However in the announcements of the episode the week before, my parents had already recognized me. So that saved me a few quid. They were very unhappy about it. They never told me that with so many words, but they really were. They still hope I quit doing activism.<br>
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	<b>Were did you grow up? In a small village or in a town? Do you have brothers and sisters? How are they handling your activism?</b><br>		<b>Were did you grow up? In a small village or in a town? Do you have brothers and sisters? How are they handling your activism?</b><br>

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	This second Community Interview is with a Dutch guy in his twenties. He appeared incognito in two television broadcasts and he once wrote an article in a newspaper and he also gave a few talks for students at some universities. His Twitter name is <b>Kinderbevrijdingsfront</b> (Child Liberation Front).<br>		This second Community Interview is with a Dutch guy in his twenties. He appeared incognito in two television broadcasts and he once wrote an article in a newspaper and he also gave a few talks for students at some universities. His <i>Twitter</i> name is <b>Kinderbevrijdingsfront</b> (Child Liberation Front).<br>
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	<b>Were did you grow up? In a small village or in a town? Do you have brothers and sisters? How are they handling your activism?</b><br>		<b>Were did you grow up? In a small village or in a town? Do you have brothers and sisters? How are they handling your activism?</b><br>
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	I grew up on the edge of a city (between 50-100k inhabitants). Farmland, beaches, forest, all nearby. A really great place to grow up as a boy. Not so much as a teen or young adult. I think I may be the last generation that climbed trees, at least it felt that way. I remember when I was ten years old, one of my teachers told me that I was hurting the trees and shouldn't climb them. I thought she was nuts. I drove by my old school last summer and noticed all the trees had been made ~~unclimbable~~ and no-one was playing fantasy games or things like that. It makes me sad. My family was rather free and as the youngest of three, I think, I benefited the most. There was little meddling in my personal relationships and everyone was always really impressed with the amount and kind of friends I had. I never had any issues being real good friends with boys. I remember I felt a bit confused about my feelings earlier, but the moment it really struck me was when our class was asked to 'babysit' a lower class. I was about nine years old and I was coupled with a boy who was four or five years old. The moment I saw him, I felt butterflies in my stomach. I was head over heals instantly. I think it took me about five minutes to end up cuddling with him. Because I was different, I was bullied. It wasn't just the bullies who thought I was weird, it was also me, realizing I was completely different from the rest of the world. Eventually, I grew stronger, more robust. My siblings are dealing with it in different ways. One of them I haven't seen in four years. From what I've heard it's because he wants to protect his children from me. Just one week ago, they said they hoped to see me with an adult partner soon. I told them: 'must be one fat cat [very wealthy person] before I consider dating an adult'.<br>		I grew up on the edge of a city (between 50-100k inhabitants). Farmland, beaches, forest, all nearby. A really great place to grow up as a boy. Not so much as a teen or young adult. I think I may be the last generation that climbed trees, at least it felt that way. I remember when I was ten years old, one of my teachers told me that I was hurting the trees and shouldn't climb them. I thought she was nuts. I drove by my old school last summer and noticed all the trees had been made unclimable and no-one was playing fantasy games or things like that. It makes me sad. My family was rather free and as the youngest of three, I think, I benefited the most. There was little meddling in my personal relationships and everyone was always really impressed with the amount and kind of friends I had. I never had any issues being real good friends with boys. I remember I felt a bit confused about my feelings earlier, but the moment it really struck me was when our class was asked to 'babysit' a lower class. I was about nine years old and I was coupled with a boy who was four or five years old. The moment I saw him, I felt butterflies in my stomach. I was head over heals instantly. I think it took me about five minutes to end up cuddling with him. Because I was different, I was bullied. It wasn't just the bullies who thought I was weird, it was also me, realizing I was completely different from the rest of the world. Eventually, I grew stronger, more robust. My siblings are dealing with it in different ways. One of them I haven't seen in four years. From what I've heard it's because he wants to protect his children from me. Just one week ago, they said they hoped to see me with an adult partner soon. I told them: 'must be one fat cat [very wealthy person] before I consider dating an adult'.<br>
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	<b>To return to the coming out again. Why do you want to come out to the public? And what is withholding you to do so? In other words, what are the pros and cons in this far from easy dilemma?</b><br>		<b>To return to the coming out again. Why do you want to come out to the public? And what is withholding you to do so? In other words, what are the pros and cons in this far from easy dilemma?</b><br>
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	This second Community Interview is with a Dutch guy in his twenties. He appeared incognito in two television broadcasts and he once wrote an article in a newspaper and he also gave a few talks for students at some universities.<br>		This second Community Interview is with a Dutch guy in his twenties. He appeared incognito in two television broadcasts and he once wrote an article in a newspaper and he also gave a few talks for students at some universities. His Twitter name is <b>Kinderbevrijdingsfront</b> (Child Liberation Front).<br>
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	<b>First let me ask you this question: how do you want to be called in this interview? On <i>Twitter</i> you use the name Kinderbevrijdingsfront ~~(Child Liberation Front)~~ but you also once published an article in the Dutch newspaper <i>De Volkskrant</i> using the name Mark L.</b><br>		<b>First let me ask you this question: how do you want to be called in this interview? On <i>Twitter</i> you use the name Kinderbevrijdingsfront but you also once published an article in the Dutch newspaper <i>De Volkskrant</i> using the name Mark L.</b><br>
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	That was my first thought after talking to you about this interview. I've used quite a lot of pseudonyms, roles and alter egos over the past years. The most (in)famous probably being 'Mark Lucius'. I personally don't consider Mark Lucius to be a pseudonym, it's an alter ego. I don't always agree with what Mark Lucius said, but it was strategic. It served a purpose. And as far as I'm concerned, there is no use to Mark anymore. As for the Child Liberation Front, well, that's hardly a name. It's an idea, a brand, that everyone should feel free to use. You're not interviewing Mark or the Child Liberation Front. You're interviewing the person behind it. For the moment you can call me 'N' just like Near from <i>Death Note</i>. [Death Note is a famous Japanese manga series.]<br>		That was my first thought after talking to you about this interview. I've used quite a lot of pseudonyms, roles and alter egos over the past years. The most (in)famous probably being 'Mark Lucius'. I personally don't consider Mark Lucius to be a pseudonym, it's an alter ego. I don't always agree with what Mark Lucius said, but it was strategic. It served a purpose. And as far as I'm concerned, there is no use to Mark anymore. As for the Child Liberation Front, well, that's hardly a name. It's an idea, a brand, that everyone should feel free to use. You're not interviewing Mark or the Child Liberation Front. You're interviewing the person behind it. For the moment you can call me 'N' just like Near from <i>Death Note</i>. [Death Note is a famous Japanese manga series.]<br>

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	<b>First let me ask you this question: how do you want to be called in this interview? On <i>Twitter</i> you use the name ~~<b>~~Kinderbevrijdingsfront~~</b>~~ (Child Liberation Front) but you also once published an article in the Dutch newspaper <i>De Volkskrant</i> using the name Mark L.</b><br>		<b>First let me ask you this question: how do you want to be called in this interview? On <i>Twitter</i> you use the name Kinderbevrijdingsfront (Child Liberation Front) but you also once published an article in the Dutch newspaper <i>De Volkskrant</i> using the name Mark L.</b><br>
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	That was my first thought after talking to you about this interview. I've used quite a lot of pseudonyms, roles and alter egos over the past years. The most (in)famous probably being 'Mark Lucius'. I personally don't consider Mark Lucius to be a pseudonym, it's an alter ego. I don't always agree with what Mark Lucius said, but it was strategic. It served a purpose. And as far as I'm concerned, there is no use to Mark anymore. As for the Child Liberation Front, well, that's hardly a name. It's an idea, a brand, that everyone should feel free to use. You're not interviewing Mark or the Child Liberation Front. You're interviewing the person behind it. For the moment you can call me 'N' just like Near from <i>Death Note</i>. [Death Note is a famous Japanese manga series.]<br>		That was my first thought after talking to you about this interview. I've used quite a lot of pseudonyms, roles and alter egos over the past years. The most (in)famous probably being 'Mark Lucius'. I personally don't consider Mark Lucius to be a pseudonym, it's an alter ego. I don't always agree with what Mark Lucius said, but it was strategic. It served a purpose. And as far as I'm concerned, there is no use to Mark anymore. As for the Child Liberation Front, well, that's hardly a name. It's an idea, a brand, that everyone should feel free to use. You're not interviewing Mark or the Child Liberation Front. You're interviewing the person behind it. For the moment you can call me 'N' just like Near from <i>Death Note</i>. [Death Note is a famous Japanese manga series.]<br>