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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A government ethics committee in Germany says the ban is unacceptable as it doesn&amp;#039;t allow the right to sexual self-determination. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The comments are in regard to a well-publicized relationship between a brother and sister. Patrick Stuebing lived with his partner, Susan Karolewski, who turned out to be his sister and the couple had four children together, two of whom were disabled. They did not know each other when they were growing up, as they were raised separately. They only met when Stuebing was 24 and Karolewski was 16.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A government ethics committee in Germany says the ban is unacceptable as it doesn&amp;#039;t allow the right to sexual self-determination. The ethics board is made up of 26 members, who garnered the opinion of scientists, doctors, theologians and lawyers. The chairman of the council, Christiane Woopen, was among the 14 members voting in favor of revoking section 173, while nine people voted for the ban to continue and two abstained. Following the majority decision, they are now going to ask the government to reconsider the law, which states that incest is illegal in Germany. [...]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The ethics board is made up of 26 members, who garnered the opinion of scientists, doctors, theologians and lawyers. The chairman of the council, Christiane Woopen, was among the 14 members voting in favor of revoking section 173, while nine people voted for the ban to continue and two abstained. Following the majority decision, they are now going to ask the government to reconsider the law, which states that incest is illegal in Germany. [...]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;I suppose I take an unpopular view that it&amp;#039;s actually moral progress,&amp;quot; Jesse Bering, who is the author of &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Perv: The Sexual Deviant In All Of Us&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;. &amp;quot;There are certain caveats that we need to include with our analysis of whether incest is wrong or right, but for me, the biggest point is a matter of harm.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;I suppose I take an unpopular view that it&amp;#039;s actually moral progress,&amp;quot; Jesse Bering, who is the author of &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Perv: The Sexual Deviant In All Of Us&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;. &amp;quot;There are certain caveats that we need to include with our analysis of whether incest is wrong or right, but for me, the biggest point is a matter of harm.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Admin: Created page with &quot;A government ethics committee in Germany says the ban is unacceptable as it doesn&#039;t allow the right to sexual self-determination. The comments are in regard to a well-publiciz...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;A government ethics committee in Germany says the ban is unacceptable as it doesn&amp;#039;t allow the right to sexual self-determination. The comments are in regard to a well-publiciz...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;A government ethics committee in Germany says the ban is unacceptable as it doesn&amp;#039;t allow the right to sexual self-determination. The comments are in regard to a well-publicized relationship between a brother and sister. Patrick Stuebing lived with his partner, Susan Karolewski, who turned out to be his sister and the couple had four children together, two of whom were disabled. They did not know each other when they were growing up, as they were raised separately. They only met when Stuebing was 24 and Karolewski was 16.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The ethics board is made up of 26 members, who garnered the opinion of scientists, doctors, theologians and lawyers. The chairman of the council, Christiane Woopen, was among the 14 members voting in favor of revoking section 173, while nine people voted for the ban to continue and two abstained. Following the majority decision, they are now going to ask the government to reconsider the law, which states that incest is illegal in Germany. [...]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I suppose I take an unpopular view that it&amp;#039;s actually moral progress,&amp;quot; Jesse Bering, who is the author of &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Perv: The Sexual Deviant In All Of Us&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;. &amp;quot;There are certain caveats that we need to include with our analysis of whether incest is wrong or right, but for me, the biggest point is a matter of harm.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Although Elijah and Milo Peters, two Czech-born brothers who have performed in gay adult scenes with each other, Bering noted, &amp;quot;The fact that they&amp;#039;re violating this... taboo notion of your brother or your sister being completely off-limits from a sexual perspective, I think, attracts... a large contingency of the viewing public.&amp;quot; He added, &amp;quot;It&amp;#039;s a carnival-esque affair, but it&amp;#039;s actual sexual arousing to us because it probably taps into something, whether we want to admit it or not, deeply unconscious about the possible patterns of attraction to... our relatives.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;source: Article &amp;#039;German Siblings Allowed To Have Sex By Law&amp;#039; by Sarmad Ali; www.parhlo.com/german-siblings-allowed-to-have-sex-by-law/; PARHLO (Source: The Independent); July 2015&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Sarmad Ali]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Duitsland]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Patrick Stuebing]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Susan Karolewski]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Christiane Woopen]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Jesse Bering]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Elijah Peters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Milo Peters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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