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	[Kenny:] Yes, I'll be blood, yes.<br>		[Kenny:] Yes, I'll be blood, yes.<br>
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	[Interviewer:] ~~okay~~, I'll try my best. I've written one post in the forum and you know they've responded to that, but I can I think pressure them a little bit more. I hope they will listen but yeah in general, have you experienced any other kind of ageism or youth oppression in the MAP community?<br>		[Interviewer:] Okay, I'll try my best. I've written one post in the forum and you know they've responded to that, but I can I think pressure them a little bit more. I hope they will listen but yeah in general, have you experienced any other kind of ageism or youth oppression in the MAP community?<br>
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	[Kenny:] See, the thing about that is, that almost referring to the MAP community is a very odd thing, because it's not jointed together, it's not... no one in the MAP community there's not a whole lot of people in the MAP community who are together per se just because of how hard it is to do well one know each other irl, in real life, but past that, you know, you have people on the internet obviously but that's only so far. In the MAP community, I never talked with people a bunch on this but I feel like it's hot MAP issues tie in a lot with youth liberation and youth rights as a whole, so I'd like to think that for the most part MAPs likely have a bit better insight into that from being more exposed to that than a lot of the general population.<br>		[Kenny:] See, the thing about that is, that almost referring to the MAP community is a very odd thing, because it's not jointed together, it's not... no one in the MAP community there's not a whole lot of people in the MAP community who are together per se just because of how hard it is to do well one know each other irl, in real life, but past that, you know, you have people on the internet obviously but that's only so far. In the MAP community, I never talked with people a bunch on this but I feel like it's hot MAP issues tie in a lot with youth liberation and youth rights as a whole, so I'd like to think that for the most part MAPs likely have a bit better insight into that from being more exposed to that than a lot of the general population.<br>

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[Kenny:] Hi my name..."

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	[Kenny:] I think additionally, I probably it would have been good to ask though, it really wasn't what was in my mind at the moment. It would have been probably, it will not probably, it would have been good to ask if I it was mandatory if I had to, because the way it was presented to me was, they presented it like it was the option, that there wasn't much of another option. That's how it seemed to me at the moment. Which is why instead of asking that I just tried to deny get out of the scenario entirely. So I really wish I would have asked if it was me if I was obligated to, but you know hindsight is 20 20 as they say.<br>		[Kenny:] I think additionally, I probably it would have been good to ask though, it really wasn't what was in my mind at the moment. It would have been probably, it will not probably, it would have been good to ask if I it was mandatory if I had to, because the way it was presented to me was, they presented it like it was the option, that there wasn't much of another option. That's how it seemed to me at the moment. Which is why instead of asking that I just tried to deny get out of the scenario entirely. So I really wish I would have asked if it was me if I was obligated to, but you know hindsight is 20 20 as they say.<br>
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	[Interviewer:] I've been interested in in some ways in like therapy, or quote unquote "therapy", for MAPs like stuff that nets are forced to go to that is called therapy by society for a while and like there's this organization ~~B4UAct~~, which is like a MAP organization.<br>		[Interviewer:] I've been interested in in some ways in like therapy, or quote unquote "therapy", for MAPs like stuff that nets are forced to go to that is called therapy by society for a while and like there's this organization B4U-Act, which is like a MAP organization.<br>
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	[Kenny:] I used to be on their forum and they recently started kicking miners out of it.<br>		[Kenny:] I used to be on their forum and they recently started kicking miners out of it.<br>
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	[Interviewer:] Like I can understand that they, because like you know, when they are like they get money by the government and that's already like not much but enough to survive and if people like find out oh there are young people on MAP forum then and it's why we react then we must stop this organization from getting...<br>		[Interviewer:] Like I can understand that they, because like you know, when they are like they get money by the government and that's already like not much but enough to survive and if people like find out oh there are young people on MAP forum then and it's why we react then we must stop this organization from getting...<br>
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	[Kenny:] I don't appreciate it ~~B4UAct~~ exists in the first place, just on the basis of its name propagating the before; the don't act kind of on don't act on your feelings, which I hate the phrase yeah it's kind of myth.<br>		[Kenny:] I don't appreciate it B4U-Act exists in the first place, just on the basis of its name propagating the before; the don't act kind of on don't act on your feelings, which I hate the phrase yeah it's kind of myth.<br>
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	[Interviewer:] I can totally see that I besides I know they have been looking into changing the name and it's like of course it's in parts I think the name because that then people think oh yes we MAPs agree we are dangerous like that, but it's actually meant as before you act, more like before you as a parent sent your child to come out to us a MAP, to like like electroshock therapy so before you do that perhaps listen to MAPs.<br>		[Interviewer:] I can totally see that I besides I know they have been looking into changing the name and it's like of course it's in parts I think the name because that then people think oh yes we MAPs agree we are dangerous like that, but it's actually meant as before you act, more like before you as a parent sent your child to come out to us a MAP, to like like electroshock therapy so before you do that perhaps listen to MAPs.<br>
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	[Kenny:] I think, and this is a very hard thing to do, so it's not something that I'm saying you have to do. But I think; the thing is that when people, when society is in a certain type of scenario and I got to assume it was the same with the gay liberation movement, but when a sudden type of oppression is happening, eventually someone has to just accept and a group of people, a lot of people just have to learn to accept, or not to accept, but actualize the possibility that they might get hurt in the process; this is just a thing that horrible as it is, is necessary for change I think.<br>		[Kenny:] I think, and this is a very hard thing to do, so it's not something that I'm saying you have to do. But I think; the thing is that when people, when society is in a certain type of scenario and I got to assume it was the same with the gay liberation movement, but when a sudden type of oppression is happening, eventually someone has to just accept and a group of people, a lot of people just have to learn to accept, or not to accept, but actualize the possibility that they might get hurt in the process; this is just a thing that horrible as it is, is necessary for change I think.<br>
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	[Interviewer:] I agree with that. Sometimes, I think, if I come out publicly, then I could tape in a lot of ways but perhaps also you know I might be killed or in some way coming out could prevent me from really doing effective activism. Like I have done, I would say, I mean, I would, I don't know if it was effective but for example I've talked in front of like twenty-five researchers or so at like a ~~B4UAct~~ conference and that was pretty cool. But others might say, okay you just like talked in front of researchers and that's just you know very superficial and isn't really activism like marching on the streets, but science so. I definitely like wonder sometimes maybe I should come out publicly.<br>		[Interviewer:] I agree with that. Sometimes, I think, if I come out publicly, then I could tape in a lot of ways but perhaps also you know I might be killed or in some way coming out could prevent me from really doing effective activism. Like I have done, I would say, I mean, I would, I don't know if it was effective but for example I've talked in front of like twenty-five researchers or so at like a B4U-Act conference and that was pretty cool. But others might say, okay you just like talked in front of researchers and that's just you know very superficial and isn't really activism like marching on the streets, but science so. I definitely like wonder sometimes maybe I should come out publicly.<br>
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	[Kenny:] Well, if you cared that would be wonderful. I'm not gonna say that wouldn't be. I think a mistake that some people might make is discouraging someone from coming out, because it's dangerous. I apologize but it is dangerous and the thing with that is I don't think you should discourage them anyways. If they are willing to come out, dangerous as it may be, let them come out, don't discourage them from it. You can acknowledge the danger and you can say, okay go ahead because again, of course, it's going to be dangerous. You can't let that get in the way of people who have aspirations.<br>		[Kenny:] Well, if you cared that would be wonderful. I'm not gonna say that wouldn't be. I think a mistake that some people might make is discouraging someone from coming out, because it's dangerous. I apologize but it is dangerous and the thing with that is I don't think you should discourage them anyways. If they are willing to come out, dangerous as it may be, let them come out, don't discourage them from it. You can acknowledge the danger and you can say, okay go ahead because again, of course, it's going to be dangerous. You can't let that get in the way of people who have aspirations.<br>
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	[Interviewer:] I mean, I definitely want to like yes certainly, I agree with you, but then maybe there's a MAP listening who, you know, feels then excluded because they have a different opinion. And I don't want to feel like, see that so if anyone feels the clue, I just want to say any listeners who fix you that I am sorry I just like you know it's okay if you have a difference, because...<br>		[Interviewer:] I mean, I definitely want to like yes certainly, I agree with you, but then maybe there's a MAP listening who, you know, feels then excluded because they have a different opinion. And I don't want to feel like, see that so if anyone feels the clue, I just want to say any listeners who fix you that I am sorry I just like you know it's okay if you have a difference, because...<br>
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	[Kenny:] Here's the thing I have about that is I feel like and I'm not surprised a lot of people still hold this stance because back when I was on ~~B4UAct~~, you know, I was anti-c, as they call it, anti-contact as they call it, though I think that's a dumb term. It's what they called it, obviously I'm not anymore, but I was but I think now looking back on that, I think it's very akin to a gay person believing it's not okay for them to be gay. As into quote unquote "act on it". I feel like it's very much the same scenario, except once more societally reinforced than the other.<br>		[Kenny:] Here's the thing I have about that is I feel like and I'm not surprised a lot of people still hold this stance because back when I was on B4U-Act, you know, I was anti-c, as they call it, anti-contact as they call it, though I think that's a dumb term. It's what they called it, obviously I'm not anymore, but I was but I think now looking back on that, I think it's very akin to a gay person believing it's not okay for them to be gay. As into quote unquote "act on it". I feel like it's very much the same scenario, except once more societally reinforced than the other.<br>
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	[Interviewer:] I mean, I sometimes find the table to see it this way. When you say people, when you tell people like you are like, you know, manipulated. You just have internalized prejudices that is perhaps not helpful and sometimes, you say if I wrong.<br>		[Interviewer:] I mean, I sometimes find the table to see it this way. When you say people, when you tell people like you are like, you know, manipulated. You just have internalized prejudices that is perhaps not helpful and sometimes, you say if I wrong.<br>