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	<h2>Is Mark Rutte a pedophile?? - Marthijn Uittenbogaard (p. 1)</h2>		<h2>Is Mark Rutte a pedophile? - Marthijn Uittenbogaard (p. 1)</h2>
	<h2>The Supreme Court - Marthijn Uittenbogaard (p. 2)</h2>		<h2>The Supreme Court - Marthijn Uittenbogaard (p. 2)</h2>
	<h2>Eijsbouts is a familiar face - Interview Marthijn Uittenbogaard door Michiel Eijsbouts (p. 3)</h2>		<h2>Eijsbouts is a familiar face - Interview Marthijn Uittenbogaard door Michiel Eijsbouts (p. 3)</h2>
	<h2>Coming ~~oud~~ - Laurel (p. 3 & 6)</h2>		<h2>Coming out - Laurel (p. 3 & 6)</h2>
	<h2>Arnon Grunberg in conservation with Marthijn Uittenbogaard (p. 4 & 5)</h2>		<h2>Arnon Grunberg in conservation with Marthijn Uittenbogaard (p. 4 & 5)</h2>
	<h2>Pedogenloos - Pascal van Hees (p. 5)</h2>		<h2>Pedogenloos - Pascal van Hees (p. 5)</h2>

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	I liked that, but at the same time I realized that this mother apparently did not feel free to enter into the debate in the Aula of the school, College Hageveld in Heemstede, about the extent to which sex with minors is permissible. Children have been completely desexualized in the public debate. Anyone who questions this should be isolated, criminalized and locked up.<br />		I liked that, but at the same time I realized that this mother apparently did not feel free to enter into the debate in the Aula of the school, College Hageveld in Heemstede, about the extent to which sex with minors is permissible. Children have been completely desexualized in the public debate. Anyone who questions this should be isolated, criminalized and locked up.<br />
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	In 2006, the Amsterdam student association Machiavelli wanted to organize a meeting in the Oudemanhuispoort with the then chairman of the Party for Charity, Marthijn Uittenbogaard, who argued that sex with children older than 12 should no longer be punishable, on the obvious condition that the child would also desire such sex. The meeting did not go ahead because the University of Amsterdam could not guarantee security; rather, the UvA had withdrawn its security guards from the building after threats were made. The Oudemanhuispoort, which used to be a sanctuary for the most bizarre groups (such as Maoists who defended the Pol Pot regime), is no longer that. By the way, this is not because of the Machiavelli administration, but because of the UvA administration. www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2011/07/06/pas-op-pedofiel-de-maatschappij-wordt-vrediger-als-12024293-a1222530<br />		In 2006, the Amsterdam student association Machiavelli wanted to organize a meeting in the Oudemanhuispoort with the then chairman of the Party for Charity, Marthijn Uittenbogaard, who argued that sex with children older than 12 should no longer be punishable, on the obvious condition that the child would also desire such sex. The meeting did not go ahead because the University of Amsterdam could not guarantee security; rather, the UvA had withdrawn its security guards from the building after threats were made. The Oudemanhuispoort, which used to be a sanctuary for the most bizarre groups (such as Maoists who defended the Pol Pot regime), is no longer that. By the way, this is not because of the Machiavelli administration, but because of the UvA administration. {www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2011/07/06/pas-op-pedofiel-de-maatschappij-wordt-vrediger-als-12024293-a1222530}<br />
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			My colleague professor at the UvA Gert Hekma received a warning from the Board of Trustees some 15 years ago when he stated on television that he was not necessarily against sexual relations between adults and children. {www.folia.nl/actueel/111821/gert-hek-ma-gaat-met-pensioen-pfffff-iedereen-is-zo-preuts-en-braaf-geworden}<br />
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	My colleague professor at the UvA Gert Hekma received a warning from the Board of Trustees some 15 years ago when he stated on television that he was not necessarily against sexual relations between adults and children. www.folia.nl/actueel/111821/gert-hek-ma-gaat-met-pensioen-pfffff-iedereen-is-zo-preuts-en-braaf-geworden<br />		As private pornofication advances, public prudery increases. And that prudery leads to popular outcry, led by Thierry Baudet and Henk Bres. The pedo hunters of Henk Bres impose their morality with a heavy hand. The Public Prosecution Service gladly joined in, at the time with the prosecution of the pedo association Martijn and now again with the prosecution of the former chairman of that now banned association. He is not sure of his life anymore. {www.volkskrant.nl/columns-opinie/pedofiliever-dacht-making-is-een-retorische-knuppel-van-extreemrechts-geworden~bad863e0}<br />
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	As private pornofication advances, public prudery increases. And that prudery leads to popular outcry, led by Thierry Baudet and Henk Bres. The pedo hunters of Henk Bres impose their morality with a heavy hand. The Public Prosecution Service gladly joined in, at the time with the prosecution of the pedo association Martijn and now again with the prosecution of the former chairman of that now banned association. He is not sure of his life anymore. www.volkskrant.nl/columns-opinie/pedofiliever-dacht-making-is-een-retorische-knuppel-van-extreemrechts-geworden~bad863e0<br />
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	About 20 years ago my wife and I were staying in New Orleans with a colleague who had just divorced and was living with her two children in an extremely narrow shotgun house. We used the children's room, which meant the children had to sleep in their mother's bed. My wife felt that we were testing my colleague's hospitality, but he reassured her. She loved sleeping in the same bed with her children, but when she was alone, she couldn't do that: her neighbors would report her on suspicion of pedophilia...<br />		About 20 years ago my wife and I were staying in New Orleans with a colleague who had just divorced and was living with her two children in an extremely narrow shotgun house. We used the children's room, which meant the children had to sleep in their mother's bed. My wife felt that we were testing my colleague's hospitality, but he reassured her. She loved sleeping in the same bed with her children, but when she was alone, she couldn't do that: her neighbors would report her on suspicion of pedophilia...<br />
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	We are all starting to look like Henk Bres.<br />		We are all starting to look like Henk Bres.<br />
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	Seven years ago, together with Anton Dautzenberg, Arnon Grunberg, Gert Hekma and Bart Zwier, I wrote an open letter against the attempts of the Public Prosecution Service to forbid the paedophile association Martijn. That piece was co-signed by some forty other writers, scientists and journalists and appeared in the Volkskrant. www.volks-krant.nl/columns-opinie/hoge-raad-ver-bied-vereniging-martijn-niet~b25e1f06/<br />		Seven years ago, together with Anton Dautzenberg, Arnon Grunberg, Gert Hekma and Bart Zwier, I wrote an open letter against the attempts of the Public Prosecution Service to forbid the paedophile association Martijn. That piece was co-signed by some forty other writers, scientists and journalists and appeared in the Volkskrant. {www.volks-krant.nl/columns-opinie/hoge-raad-ver-bied-vereniging-martijn-niet~b25e1f06/}<br />
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	In response to that piece, I received a call from the editors of Pauw and Witteman asking if I would like to come and defend that open letter on television. I said yes, but I did so with a heavy heart and not before asking my wife's permission. As a precaution, I took the paperback edition of Vladimir Nabokov's novel Lolita off my bookshelf and inspected the shutters of our home. I was expecting unwanted visitors that night.<br />		In response to that piece, I received a call from the editors of Pauw and Witteman asking if I would like to come and defend that open letter on television. I said yes, but I did so with a heavy heart and not before asking my wife's permission. As a precaution, I took the paperback edition of Vladimir Nabokov's novel Lolita off my bookshelf and inspected the shutters of our home. I was expecting unwanted visitors that night.<br />
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	At eleven o'clock I was called by a friend. I had to go and watch Pauw en Witteman. There sat Madeleine van Toorenbrug on behalf of the CDA defending a ban on the association Martijn. Apparently she had made it a condition of her appearance that she would not be contradicted. That happened anyway, not only by Jeroen Pauw and Paul Witteman, but also by Thierry Baudet who happened to be a table guest and attacked Van Toorenburg strongly. Baudet asked if Van Toorenburg was also in favor of banning the novel Lolita, in which a pedophile is the main character.<br />		At eleven o'clock I was called by a friend. I had to go and watch Pauw en Witteman. There sat Madeleine van Toorenbrug on behalf of the CDA defending a ban on the association Martijn. Apparently she had made it a condition of her appearance that she would not be contradicted. That happened anyway, not only by Jeroen Pauw and Paul Witteman, but also by Thierry Baudet who happened to be a table guest and attacked Van Toorenburg strongly. Baudet asked if Van Toorenburg was also in favor of banning the novel Lolita, in which a pedophile is the main character.<br />
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	Ms. Van Toorenburg did not answer Baudet's question, possibly because she had never heard of Vladimir Nabokov. www.bnnvara.nl/dewerelddraaitdoor/videos/259486<br />		Ms. Van Toorenburg did not answer Baudet's question, possibly because she had never heard of Vladimir Nabokov. {www.bnnvara.nl/dewerelddraaitdoor/videos/259486}<br />
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	Thierry Baudet now thinks, seven years later, that the children's program Gewoon Bloot should not have been broadcast. The public broadcaster is now working against the promotion of pedophilia. Sexualization of children. Pencil peddling. Criminal.'<br />		Thierry Baudet now thinks, seven years later, that the children's program Gewoon Bloot should not have been broadcast. The public broadcaster is now working against the promotion of pedophilia. Sexualization of children. Pencil peddling. Criminal.'<br />

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	The duo turns out to reside in a simple yet functional 1930s two-bedroom, with scratch and sidewalk tile resistant polycarbonate for the windows and a front door with ten-way locking. The comparatively cozy living room is decorated with cozy figurines of a Buddha head and angel figures, evergreen leaf wallpaper and a giant tree full of lifelike cherry blossoms. It is clear that we are dealing with nature lovers here, if I had not already deduced this from the sticker of the Party for the Animals on their wheelie bin.<br />		The duo turns out to reside in a simple yet functional 1930s two-bedroom, with scratch and sidewalk tile resistant polycarbonate for the windows and a front door with ten-way locking. The comparatively cozy living room is decorated with cozy figurines of a Buddha head and angel figures, evergreen leaf wallpaper and a giant tree full of lifelike cherry blossoms. It is clear that we are dealing with nature lovers here, if I had not already deduced this from the sticker of the Party for the Animals on their wheelie bin.<br />
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	And there I find him, sitting in his oh-so-beloved armchair, the man who for years has been publicly vilified, persecuted, disrupted, stoned and chased with a fillet knife by tout Nederland, but also the man who will ensure that the name of PC is on everyone's lips again, sales figures reach Charlie Hebdo-style heights and, in the process, his own broad ideas become completely bon ton again. He chooses the rum beans. Outwardly he looks a bit like radio producer Ruud de Wild, but with healthier intestines, and without much delay he treats me to a historical exposé on the genesis and inevitable decline of the Martijn Association, the loosely affiliated PNVD, arrest teams, searches, restrictions, his former and/or current lawyer Sidney Smeets, the hierarchy of pedophiles among themselves, freedom of speech, the fascist cancer ~~nazis~~ in The Hague, and just about the time I have put my device in position and found the button to start the recording, I realize that this man is probably less disturbed than three quarters of the PC editors I have had the pleasure of meeting in my still early life.<br />		And there I find him, sitting in his oh-so-beloved armchair, the man who for years has been publicly vilified, persecuted, disrupted, stoned and chased with a fillet knife by tout Nederland, but also the man who will ensure that the name of PC is on everyone's lips again, sales figures reach Charlie Hebdo-style heights and, in the process, his own broad ideas become completely bon ton again. He chooses the rum beans. Outwardly he looks a bit like radio producer Ruud de Wild, but with healthier intestines, and without much delay he treats me to a historical exposé on the genesis and inevitable decline of the Martijn Association, the loosely affiliated PNVD, arrest teams, searches, restrictions, his former and/or current lawyer Sidney Smeets, the hierarchy of pedophiles among themselves, freedom of speech, the fascist cancer Nazis in The Hague, and just about the time I have put my device in position and found the button to start the recording, I realize that this man is probably less disturbed than three quarters of the PC editors I have had the pleasure of meeting in my still early life.<br />
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	Congratulations on your guest chief editorship.<br />		Congratulations on your guest chief editorship.<br />
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	Is not gold more than thirty pieces of silver?<br />		Is not gold more than thirty pieces of silver?<br />
	One day the sinner returns home without a Savior.<br />		One day the sinner returns home without a Savior.<br />
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	(see Hafkamp 1979, 46-8)<br />		(see Hafkamp 1979, 46-8)<br />
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	There will be a database of eggs and seeds. There will then be a constant search to see how the genetic diversity can be improved. Since genes are only a factor in creating smarter and healthier people, it is also important to improve the parenting factor. Every adult is entitled to one child, but must undergo training for it, say Pabo but without the language and math test.<br />		There will be a database of eggs and seeds. There will then be a constant search to see how the genetic diversity can be improved. Since genes are only a factor in creating smarter and healthier people, it is also important to improve the parenting factor. Every adult is entitled to one child, but must undergo training for it, say Pabo but without the language and math test.<br />
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	But until that time, you yourself can help the human race by not only raising your own children, but also by doing so.~~<br />~~		But until that time, you yourself can help the human race by not only raising your own children, but also by doing so. Bring humanity forward by not using a rubber only with people whose ancestors people whose ancestors live at least at least 500 kilometers from yours. Or even better, since there are already enough people living on this planet, just become a foster parent or something.<br />
	humanity forward by not using ~~<br />~~
	rubber only with people whose ancestors ~~<br />~~
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	at least 500 kilometers from yours. ~~<br />~~
	Or even better, since there are already enough people living on this planet, just become a foster parent or something.<br />
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	I have repeatedly called Marthijn Uittenbogaard, the figurehead of pedophile Holland, a freedom fighter. He defends the freedom of speech and the freedom of association to the full, and we should cherish that, not despise it. Moreover, he abides by the law, although he questions it at the same time. That is his right.<br />		I have repeatedly called Marthijn Uittenbogaard, the figurehead of pedophile Holland, a freedom fighter. He defends the freedom of speech and the freedom of association to the full, and we should cherish that, not despise it. Moreover, he abides by the law, although he questions it at the same time. That is his right.<br />
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	I have come to know Marthijn as an honest, reliable man who is open to dialogue. I therefore wholeheartedly support his struggle. Dreams, fantasies and desires should never be punishable. And people have the right to bear witness to them and to talk or email about them with each other. A dream is not an act (although I suspect that some farmers, in the early morning, the time when the dew starts to glisten invitingly, are actually fondling a pig, chicken or goat). But I suppose that's just my prejudice).<br />		I have come to know Marthijn as an honest, reliable man who is open to dialogue. I therefore wholeheartedly support his struggle. Dreams, fantasies and desires should never be punishable. And people have the right to bear witness to them and to talk or email about them with each other. A dream is not an act (although I suspect that some farmers, in the early morning, the time when the dew starts to glisten invitingly, are actually fondling a pig, chicken or goat). But I suppose that's just my prejudice).<br />
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	AG: Death threats are punishable by law. The state has a duty to protect its residents. That the banks refuse you as a client is, in my opinion, reprehensible. And short-sighted. And hypocritical. I believe that an overly controlling government is at odds with an open and liberal society. That is why the tendency to control should be monitored critically and curbed where possible. We know that secret services partially or completely evade democratic rules. The main thing is to protect our own citizens against this. Perhaps this will happen, for example, as a result of revelations in the NRC newspaper. Perhaps. It's a long road and not a very popular one to think about the dangers of an overly powerful state that is so good at control, also thanks to technology.<br />		AG: Death threats are punishable by law. The state has a duty to protect its residents. That the banks refuse you as a client is, in my opinion, reprehensible. And short-sighted. And hypocritical. I believe that an overly controlling government is at odds with an open and liberal society. That is why the tendency to control should be monitored critically and curbed where possible. We know that secret services partially or completely evade democratic rules. The main thing is to protect our own citizens against this. Perhaps this will happen, for example, as a result of revelations in the NRC newspaper. Perhaps. It's a long road and not a very popular one to think about the dangers of an overly powerful state that is so good at control, also thanks to technology.<br />
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	MU: When you are very mentally confused you can get tbs in the Netherlands: you are then not held responsible for your actions. Think of someone who kills because the voices in his head tell him to. Pedosexuals are usually completely open to reason and still often end up in tbs. Do you think the tbs system is abused for this?<br />		MU: When you are very mentally confused you can get tbs in the Netherlands: you are then not held responsible for your actions. Think of someone who kills because the voices in his head tell him to. Pedosexuals are usually completely open to reason and still often end up in tbs. Do you think the tbs system is abused for this?<br />
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	<b>#5 COMING OUT</b><br />		<b>#5 COMING OUT</b><br />
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	I'm a childlover, or in layman's terms, a pedophile. Even once I began to accept my love as beautiful I felt isolated. Not only was I barred from knowing anyone like me but I was living a facade. It felt like a bone-shattering weight on my chest. I knew, sooner or later,it'd crush me.~~<br />~~		I'm a childlover, or in layman's terms, a pedophile. Even once I began to accept my love as beautiful I felt isolated. Not only was I barred from knowing anyone like me but I was living a facade. It felt like a bone-shattering weight on my chest. I knew, sooner or later,it'd crush me. So I resolved to toss that weight off. In a flurry of emotion I came out publicly. It was put on social media for all to see. I wanted to skip the pain of coming out to everyone individually. I couldn't have cared less about who saw!<br />
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	So I resolved to toss that weight off. In a flurry of emotion I came out publicly. It was put on social media for all to see. I wanted to skip the pain of coming out to everyone individually. I couldn't have cared less about who saw!<br />
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	I was shaking worse than I had in years but I didn't care to try and turn the tides. So what if my family grows to hate me, friends abandon me, and I'm bullied at school? I just didn't want to lie anymore. I didn't want to feel half-dead anymore — I wanted to feel alive.<br />		I was shaking worse than I had in years but I didn't care to try and turn the tides. So what if my family grows to hate me, friends abandon me, and I'm bullied at school? I just didn't want to lie anymore. I didn't want to feel half-dead anymore — I wanted to feel alive.<br />
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	The euphoria didn't last forever, obviously. DHS soon decided that I'd have "intensive therapy”, which was their term for pedophile conversion therapy. They also decided to take all my devices away, presumably for fear of me looking at child porn.<br />		The euphoria didn't last forever, obviously. DHS soon decided that I'd have "intensive therapy”, which was their term for pedophile conversion therapy. They also decided to take all my devices away, presumably for fear of me looking at child porn.<br />
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	Thankfully I no longer have that therapist but I’ll likely have a similar one sooner or later. I also have my devices back after 3 months of essentially having no support network. I could barely contact my friends or get any outside emotional support.~~<br />~~		Thankfully I no longer have that therapist but I’ll likely have a similar one sooner or later. I also have my devices back after 3 months of essentially having no support network. I could barely contact my friends or get any outside emotional support. Despite the improvements, I still have to be wary. I'm not allowed around children alone. I can't even walk around my town because of this, let alone head to a park by myself. It's not any sort of State-imposed rule, but rather a family-imposed one. I worry about what would happen if I broke that rule. After all, my family was given the numbers of mental and behavioral facilities by my DHS caseworker.<br />
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	Despite the improvements, I still have to be wary. I'm not allowed around children alone. I can't even walk around my town because of this, let alone head to a park by myself.~~<br />~~
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	It's not any sort of State-imposed rule, but rather a family-imposed one. I worry about what would happen if I broke that rule. After all, my family was given the numbers of mental and behavioral facilities by my DHS caseworker.<br />
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	My experience isn't out of the norm for those who come out publicly. In fact, it's mild compared to many. Many would lose their job, their entire support network, be kicked out of their house, etc. Worse yet, some are outed via incarceration and subjected to the brutalities of prison.<br />		My experience isn't out of the norm for those who come out publicly. In fact, it's mild compared to many. Many would lose their job, their entire support network, be kicked out of their house, etc. Worse yet, some are outed via incarceration and subjected to the brutalities of prison.<br />